No comments: The end of FrontBurner?

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As many people have discovered, it looks like comments have now been turned off completely. 

The end of comments came in a way that should surprise nobody: with a douchebag move from Tim Rogers. He commented on this post, saying:

The comments here should be fun. [rubbing hands together in anticipation]

But, of course, there were no further comments allowed. Later, Wick sealed the deal.

Can FrontBurner survive without people to comment on the stories? It did before… But it’s supposed to be a conversation about Dallas, right? I always thought conversations went both ways.

My question for you: How can we use LodoWick as a place for people to discuss FrontBurner stories? Is a forum like this something people would even use?

If so, please help spread the word about LodoWick.

UPDATE (11:14 a.m.): In an attempt at further censorship, Wick has deleted the last surviving link to this blog (which was here). It’s even more important to spread the word if you want LodoWick to survive.

UPDATE 2 (11:42 a.m.): For those of you who like to reminisce… click here.

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31 Responses to No comments: The end of FrontBurner?

  1. Bethany says:

    Frontburner didn’t always allow comments.

  2. Nestor says:

    I prefer to think that Frontburner comments were just moved from Frontburner proper to here. This is exactly that separation of powers that has historically made America great!

  3. Tom says:

    I don’t think the decision to turn comments off was made by Tim.

  4. Daniel says:

    Maybe they’re just sulking and tomorrow they will sheepishly turn them back on.

    Or maybe it’s like, “Listen up, team: Thanks to the actions of one boy — the execrable RayRayRay — you all must suffer. No comments! Please direct your resentment to RayRayRay, ostracize him, call him fag in the locker room. Dismissed.” And then tomorrow they’ll turn them back on.

    If they don’t, the site will dwindle, wither and perish.

  5. Bethany says:

    Daniel, I do think they’ll get less hits. I mean, I don’t have a reason to visit the physical site now – I can just watch for a new post to pop up on my RSS feed.

  6. Hooray says:

    Let me get this straight. D Magazine can criticize other media outlets all they want, but D can’t take it? Good grief.

  7. Nestor says:

    Well of course they’ll get less hits. Unless the editors start crawling all over one another’s posts like a tumbling ball of kittens, posts will be made there once and discussed multiple times here. Brilliant!

  8. Little O says:

    Very interesting thought process at work. Magazine sales going down so you decide the best way to reach people is to not have them comment on your site.

    That is indeed thinking outside the box.

  9. Dean says:

    I liked checking in with Frontburner not only for the original posts but also for the comments. Although I didn’t agree with at least half of them, I was able to discount their significance. It’s funny but also a little sad that Wick, et al cannot take what they dish out. Poor schmucks.

  10. Nestor says:

    Wick has simply returned to the marketing basic that customers may enjoy their FrontBurner in any color so long as it is black. This may still be fine with Muffy Compote of Preston Hollow, rocking her good leg in secret thrill to the daily adventures of dashing Timmy Typer at the filthy hands of all that sort of mail Dolores usually handles. But if you are going to stake the entirety of your efforts on the incomparable insights and pronouncements of your editors alone as Wick now has, you likely had best have the very best of editors, editors with perhaps a vision more prepossessing than an iPhone commemoration of one’s triumphant duel with junk mail.

  11. bc says:

    As someone who has had Frontburner as my homepage for the last 2 years, I am so disappointed in this decision. I only comment once or twice a week, but I read almost all of the comments daily. I will likely stop by once in a while, but I’d been spending more time on some of their other blogs anyways.

    And I can’t be the only one that enjoys the childish comments as much as the witty ones…

  12. D Listed says:

    I am glad they got out of the kitchen. They never belonged there in the first place. Nothing more than undeserving arrogant hacks kissing each other’s ass.

    They are so out of touch with what is really cool about our city. The very premise that they know what is BEST is the ultimate joke.

    It is pointless to serve Snark and not allow anyone to eat it. D editors must learn they can not play with their own food after they have eaten it.

    Good riddance to arrogant rubbish.

    • S.E. says:

      I’m so glad I checked out the DMN site and saw the link to this blog. The main reason I hit FB several times a day was the comments section. And, of course, fr Adam’s Friday games. Hey, can we get him to take a few minutes from his now-busy day to resume the Friday duty?

  13. Nestor says:

    The wonderful thing about what RayRay (ne Ray) has created here is that it’s a win-win for all concerned.

    The FrontBurner editors remain tasked at pain of loss of hat with continuously generating topics (win 1) which then become available for commentary as always (win 2), with the additional benefit of not being disrupted by FB editors. Everybody wins!

    I would urge our host to examine closely those setting options available within this blog to automatically advertise and propagate it across Google and other search engines so that those interested can more easily find it.

  14. Brent D. says:

    RayRay…have you looked at the DMN cityhall blog lately. Their calling you.

  15. towski says:

    Doesn’t this whole thing just smack of taking your ball and going home?

    I just think this is so stupid for D. As far as I can tell, the comments and interaction were the things that made FB relevant.

    In addition, when FB would post a story about the little art museum I work for, I would eagerly await to see how the commentors were reacting.

    A shame.

  16. mediawonk says:

    Looks like the DMN’s Dave Levinthal is actively welcoming former FB commenters over at his City Hall Blog.

    And, KERA’s Art&Seek blog – artandseek.org – has some pretty fine reportage on a day-to-day basis about what’s going on in the area from a cultural standpoint, and they still take comments…

    • rayray21 says:

      I was just thinking that when I read that, towski. My question: How hard can it be to create a verification system? It’s not like FrontBurner is breaking new ground here.

    • Hooray says:

      Funny enough, Wick and Tim occasionally blogged under fake names. Wick did a lot of it when he was under attack from Angela Hunt. Maybe his lack of sleep caused him to do some zany things.

  17. PaulaDean says:

    SO I was on SideDish and found this site. They still have comments on.

  18. michaela0416 says:

    It really doesn’t make sense to me why they would turn off comments for Frontburner and not their other blogs unless they are concerned traffic would plummet on them if they did. Most of the commenters on Inside Corner aren’t regular Frontburnervians and they contribute a lot. I’d like to see them try to shut off comments on that blog!

  19. michaela0416 says:

    Wow, NN just deleted the link you posted to this site on Sidedish: http://sidedish.dmagazine.com/2009/04/21/frontburner-no-longer-takes-comments-sidedish-stays-live/#comments. This is starting to play out like a bunch of five year olds fighting at recess. Let’s separate the kids until they stop screaming!

  20. Stacy says:

    I just learned about this too from the buzz all over. It looks like several FB regulars are volunteering their blogs to serve the public need for FB comments. It will be interesting to see who becomes the “approved” FB commenting site for which commenters and who gets rejected by who. From the looks of things that sort of self-interested calculation has already started. Some of the first people here are long gone now.

  21. Jason says:

    One of the most irritating aspects of Frontburner was when one clique of regulars would try to use Wick and a non-existent “comment problem” as a political tool to silence those who disagreed with them. Then another faction would try the same stunt like kids trying to manipulate their parents against each other. Or one faction would walk out saying they wouldn’t return until the neighborhood regained the “charm” it had before it became integrated with whoever. So totally lame.

  22. TLS says:

    What is that saying…If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound?

    How will the editors know what anyone thinks of their posts if we can’t comment on them? I know I hate it when I post my status on Facebook and no one responds. Doesn’t anyone care about me? And my ego isn’t half as big as Tim’s is!

  23. Bill says:

    Wick was pretty clear that he already knows what the right people think of their posts. They’re great. The problem which he’s now addressed arose when the wrong people who didn’t understand that the posts were great began commenting also. Wick has also very shrewdly used this time out to outsource comments to several reeducation camps where those who may not yet be the right people can be patiently reeducated to understand that the Frontburner posts, while not perfect, are still great. It’s helpful to try to visualize the whole process overall as one of mentoring and community outreach.

  24. GT says:

    Are you talking about Trey? I don’t think Wick’s that smart. I think Tim realized everything would go to shit if he didn’t act fast so he reached out to a lieutenant he could trust to carry the ball on an end run around Wick. After all, Trey’s still a D editor, isn’t he? So Tim just moved FB to Trey’s site temporarily to save his own ass from Wick until Wick comes to his senses.

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